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Kanye Westward took his bromance with President Donald Trump to another level.
The rapper, who has become i of Trump's highest-profile celebrity supporters, visited the White House Thursday, where his planned lunch meeting with the president, Jared Kushner and Ivanka, Kid Rock and Hall of Fame running back Jim Chocolate-brown gave way to a meandering 10-minute monologue.
During the wide-ranging discussion, Due west dropped an F-bomb, ("Put the beep on however yous want to practise it and have a 5-second delay," he warned reporters), explained why he famously derided quondam President George Westward. Bush as racist while defending Trump ("I was in a victim mentality") and announced that he had been misdiagnosed with bipolar disorder when he was actually merely sleep deprived.
Hither is the full transcript from their planned lunch meeting, every bit provided by the White Firm Printing Office.
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Trump: And what people don't know, Kanye – everybody knows, right? Every – does the earth know Kanye? Kanye, what people don't know well-nigh Jim – they say – get-go of all, he's the best football player. But they say he was an even better lacrosse player. Do you think so?
Brownish: Never thought about information technology.
Trump: Huh?
Dark-brown: Never idea about it.
Trump:I heard he was even – at Syracuse.
Brown: I beloved the game. Yes, I loved it. I loved all the sports.
Trump:Well, it's smashing to have you, Jim. Great to accept you.
Brown Information technology'due south good to be here, Mr. President.
Trump:Kanye, it'southward great to be with you.
West: Great to be here.
On their friendship
Trump:And these are 2 friends of mine. And Kanye has been a friend of mine for a long fourth dimension. And Jim is – Jim came out of nowhere, and he said, "I like what the President is doing." A long time agone we met. Right? And I just appreciated it very much.
And, you know, if you look at the employment numbers, if you look at the median income, if you look at every single indicator, nosotros're keeping our promise, Jim. Thank you. And I want to cheers.
On North Korea
Dark-brown: And I similar North Korea.
Trump:I like North Korea too.
Yeah. Yeah Well, he'due south – turned out to exist skilful. Dialogue. We had a little dialogue. And Secretary of State just came dorsum – Mike. He just came back from North Korea We had very skillful meetings, and we'll meet again. But we're doing good. No more nuclear testing. No more missiles going up No more nothing And it'south – that was headed to war. That was headed to war.
Chocolate-brown: Yes. I mean, it was – to me, it seemed similar that.
Trump: Yeah. Information technology was then close Nosotros spoke – I spoke to President Obama. I will tell yous, that was headed to state of war. And now information technology's going to be – I believe it's going to work out very well.
Westward:You stopped the war –
Trump: We actually stopped the war. Saved millions of lives You know, Seoul has 30 meg people You don't realize how big Thirty million people who are right near the border; 30 miles off the border Millions of people would have been killed And I will say, Chairman Kim has been really good. Really skillful And nosotros've made a lot of progress.
That's nice that you say that, because that'southward a big – that'south a big matter These folks were covering – they were roofing Democratic people's republic of korea not – I recall not very promisingly. And there were a lot of problems. President Obama said that was his biggest problem. And I don't say annihilation is solved –
West: Y'all, solar day ane, solved one of the biggest problems.
Trump:Yeah.
West: Nosotros solved one of the biggest problems.
Trump:Information technology was a large solving. And not solved yet, but I think we're forth – I think nosotros're on the style.
No, no. It's – nosotros're well on our way.
In a short period of time, Jim. Very short period of time. You know, I left Singapore iii months ago. And nosotros've made a lot of progress. So information technology's very practiced. Hey, look, that's one of many things. Simply I appreciate everything with you.
On Kim Kardashian's visit, prison reform
Trump: I'll tell you what – Kim was in. Mrs. Johnson, nosotros got her out. She was very unfairly treated. And there are many other people like that, that –
West: Yeah, nosotros have Larry Hoover'southward lawyer with us today. And information technology's a prisoner that was focused on – he has six life sentences, and they have him adjacent to the Unabomber doing 23 and 1. That ways –
Trump:What did he do? Larry? What happened?
Moore:Why was he in?
TrumpYep, tell me Tell u.s.a..
Moore: Allegedly, it's for conspiracy from prison – from state prison. You know, it's alleged. Merely nosotros practise believe even if he did commit those crimes, the sentence was overly wide and too strict.
Trump:What was the sentence?
Moore:Six consecutive life sentences in the most secure prison in the earth, also known as "a make clean version of hell," for basically an economic law-breaking.
West: What prison is that? Proper noun the prison.
Moore: ADX supermax, in Florence, Colorado. They business firm the Unabomber, al-Qaida operatives, mass killers, Oklahoma City bomber, things of that nature.
Trump:How old is he? How quondam?
Moore: 68.
Trump:68 years former?
Moore:Yes, 68 years erstwhile.
West: And really, the reason why they imprisoned him is because he started doing positive for the customs. He started showing that he actually had power, that he wasn't just one of a monolithic voice, just he could wrap people around.
And so there's theories that at that place's infinite amounts of universe and there's alternate universe. And so it's very important for me to get Hoover out, because in an alternate universe, I am him. And I have to get and get him free because he was doing positive inside of Chicago, just like how I'm moving back to Chicago and information technology's not only nigh, y'all know, getting on stage and being an entertainer and having a monolithic vox that'southward forced to exist a specific party.
On welfare
West: You know, people expect that if you're blackness you have to exist Democrat. I have a – I've had conversations that basically said that welfare is the reason why a lot of blackness people terminate up being Democrat. They say – you know, first of all, it's a limited corporeality of jobs. So the fathers lose the jobs, and they say, "We'll give you more money for having more kids in your domicile." Then, we got rid of the mental health institutes in the '80s and the '90s, and the prison rates merely shot up.
On Chicago murder rate
West: And now you take "Chiraq," what people call "Chiraq" – which is actually – our murder charge per unit is going down by 20 percent every year. I just talked to the superintendent; met with Michael Sacks; that'due south (Mayor of Chicago) Rahm (Emanuel's) right-hand man. And so I retrieve information technology's the bravery that helps you crush this game called life.
On 'MAGA' lid, superpowers and Hillary Clinton
Due west: Y'all know, they tried to scare me to non vesture this hat – my own friends. Only this hat, information technology gives me – it gives me power, in a manner. You know, my dad and my mom separated, then I didn't have a lot of male energy in my habitation. And also, I'g married to a family unit that – (laughs) – you know, not a lot of male energy going on. It'southward cute, though. Simply there'southward times where, you know, at that place's something almost – yous know, I dearest Hillary. I dearest everyone, correct? Only the campaign "I'chiliad with her" only didn't brand me feel, as a guy, that didn't get to come across my dad all the time – like a guy that could play catch with his son. It was something near when I put this hat on, it made me feel like Superman. You made a Superman. That was my – that'southward my favorite superhero. And y'all made a Superman cape.
On the 'Yeezy Effect'
Due west: For me, also as a guy that looks up to you, looks up to Ralph Lauren, looks upwards to American industry guys – non-political, no (curse) – put the beep on it, even so you desire to do information technology, 5 seconds delay – and but goes in and gets it done.
Right now, you gave me the heart to go to Adidas. Because at Adidas, when I went in, in 2015, we were a $14-billion company losing $2 billion a year. Now we have a $38-billion market cap. It's chosen the "Yeezy outcome."
And I went to Casper. Nosotros had a meeting in Chicago. And I said, "You lot have to bring manufacturing onshore." And not even shore; into the cadre. It'southward not nearly the border; it's the core of Adidas. And Chicago is the core of Middle America. And nosotros have to make Heart America potent.
So I had the balls – because I have enough assurance to put on this hat. I mean, this Adidas affair made be a billionaire. And I could have lost $200 1000000 walking away from that bargain. But even with that, I knew it was more important for me to take the chance of walking away from that deal than to have no fathers in Chicago with no homes. And when we do have prison reformation, for no – because it's habilitation, not rehabilitation, because they didn't have the abilities in the commencement place. We never had anyone that taught us. They didn't teach us. Exactly – we had no one that "taught" the states. Correct?
On the 13th Amendment
West: Then it's more of import than whatsoever specific bargain – annihilation – that nosotros bring jobs into America, and that we provide a transition with mental health and the Amer-I-Can education curriculum that Jim has worked on. Larry Hoover also has a curriculum that he's worked on. Nosotros have Montessori curriculus that nosotros worked on. WeWork has a beautiful curriculum. The Waldorf establishment has a curriculum. Nosotros have meditation. At that place's a lot of things affecting our mental health that makes us do crazy things that puts usa back into that trap door chosen the 13th Amendment.
I did say "abolish" with the hat on. Considering why would you lot keep something around that's a trap door? If you're building a floor – the Constitution is the base of our industry, right? Of our country, of our company. Would yous build a trap door that if y'all mess up and y'all – accidentally something happens, y'all fall and you lot terminate upwards adjacent to the Unabomber? You terminate up – you got to remove all that trap door out of the relationship.
The four gentlemen that wrote the 13th Amendment – and I think the way the universe works, information technology's perfect. We don't take thirteen floors, do we? You know, and so the four – the four gentlemen that wrote the 13th Amendment didn't expect like the people they were amending. Also at that indicate, it was illegal for blacks to read – or African Americans to read. And then that meant if you actually read the Amendment, you would get locked up and turned into a slave.
On bipolar disorder misdiagnosis, mental health
West: Again – so what I think is, we don't demand sentences; nosotros need pardons. Nosotros need to talk to people. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder. I was connected with a neuropsychologist that works with the athletes in the NBA and the NFL. And he looked at my encephalon – it's equal on three parts. I'm going to get ahead driblet some bombs for you – 98 percentile IQ test. I had a 75 percentile of all human beings, simply it was counting eight numbers backwards, (inaudible), so I'm going to work on that 1. The other ones, 98 per centum – Tesla, Freud.
So he said that I actually wasn't bipolar; I had sleep impecuniousness, which could cause dementia 10 to 20 years from now, where I wouldn't even recall my son'southward name. And so all this power that I got, and I'm taking my son to the Sox game and all that, I wouldn't exist able to call up his name from a misdiagnosage.
And what we need is, we can empower the pharmaceuticals and make more money. That's 1 affair – I've never stepped into a state of affairs where I didn't make people more money. So we tin empower pharmaceuticals, we can empower our industries, nosotros can empower our factories. Nosotros tin can bring not only Adidas onshore, we can bring – Foxconn has set a factory in, I think, Minnesota.
Jared Kushner: Wisconsin.
Westward: Fifty-three 1000 –
Trump:Wisconsin. Aye. Wisconsin.
On iPlane1
W: Yep. Wisconsin. They have 4,000 jobs. People making $53,000 a year. And one of the things we got to set is Ford to have the highest design. The dopest cars. The most amazing. I don't really say "dope." I don't say negative words and try to flip them. Nosotros only say positive, lovely, divine universal words. So the flyest, freshest, about amazing car.
And what nosotros want to commencement with is – I brought a gift with me right here. This correct here is the iPlane1. It'due south a hydrogen-powered aeroplane. And this is what our president should be flying in. Expect at this, Jared. (Laughter.)
Trump:We'll get rid of Air Force One. Tin can we get rid of Air Force One? (Laughter.) No? You don't like that idea.
West: Well, we're going to have Apple, an American company, work on this plane with –
Only you know what I don't similar about – information technology'due south not that I don't like – what I need "Saturday Night Alive" to improve on, or what I need the liberals to improve on is, if he don't expect proficient, we don't wait practiced. This is our President.
Trump: Information technology'due south true.
West: He has to be the freshest, the flyest, the flyest planes, the best factories. And we have to make our cadre be in power. We take to bring jobs into America considering our all-time export is entertainment and ideas. Simply when we make everything in Mainland china and not in America, and so nosotros're adulterous on our country and we're putting people in positions to accept to do illegal things to stop upward in a cheapest manufacturing plant e'er: the prison house system.
On Trump looking practiced
Trump: I'll tell yous what – that was pretty impressive, folks. (Laughter.) You know, I hate to say this – Jim, do you want to say something? (Laughter.) What do you after that?
Yous are – please, Jim. Please.
Chocolate-brown: If he doesn't look skillful, we don't await practiced.
Trump:Great, right? Isn't that a peachy statement?
Brownish: Yeah, information technology is.
Trump: And information technology's so truthful.
Brown: Makes a lot of sense.
Trump: As a country. It's – very – I've never seen Jim Brown impressed before. (Laughter.) He was impressed. That's truthful. That statement is astonishing, huh?
Dark-brown: Yep, yeah. It makes a lot of sense.
Trump: I want to say it'southward great to have yous guys hither. And nosotros're going to go and we're going to have some dejeuner.
That was quite something. That was quite something.
Westward: It was from the soul. I just channeled it.
Trump: Yeah.
Reporter: Can I just ask a quick question of Kanye?
Trump: Really very interesting.
Yes, yes. Please.
On quondam President George West. Bush and racism
Reporter: And then you had said, of President Bush, that he doesn't care about black people. And yous've heard some people say that about this President. What practice y'all – how practise you respond to that? What exercise you lot make of that?
West: I think we demand to intendance well-nigh all people. And I believe that when I went on to NBC, I was very emotional, and I was programmed to think from a victimized mentality. A welfare mentality.
I think that with blacks and African-Americans, we really get defenseless up in the thought of racism over the idea of manufacture. We say if people don't have land, they settle for brands We want Polo-sporting Obama again. We want a brand more than we want land. Considering nosotros've haven't known how it feels to really have our ain land and have ownership of our own blocks.
So when you don't have ownership, then it'south all nigh how something looks. Information technology's almost the patina; it's non well-nigh the soul, it'south not nearly the core. Then nosotros focus more on, is somebody wearing something; is someone disrespecting so I got to shoot them. Or the idea of someone existence racist.
On police brutality
W: You lot know, nosotros talk about police murders, which we definitely accept to talk over, and we take to bring nobility to the police officers and make – the police officers are just similar us. Merely there'due south this whole hate-building, right? And that'south a major thing about racial tension.
And we besides, as black people, we have to accept a responsibility for what we're doing. We kill each other more than than police officers. And that's not proverb that the police officeholder is not is not an issue, because they are in a place – a position of power. But sometimes they're in a place of law enforcement. They need to be law-ability. It's force versus power And when y'all – you shouldn't have to force people to do that.
And so a lot of times the police officer is sitting there, they're beingness forced to exercise this and forced to do that block. And and so they force somebody into something and force into something. We have to release the honey throughout the entire state and give opportunities. A lot of times information technology's just the overall lack of reparations that we, at any given signal, nosotros say, "Oh, this is racist. This is racist. This is racist. This is racist."
So we don't accept reparations, but we have the 13th Amendment. We got to open up the whole conversation. So – and that's a move. I of the moves that I love that liberals try to practise – the liberal would try to control a black person through the concept of racism, because they know that we are very proud, emotional people. So when I said "I like Trump" to, like, someone that's liberal, they'll say, "Oh, but he'southward racist." You recollect racism could control me? Oh, that don't stop me. That'south an invisible wall.
On racism
Reporter: But you don't think – you lot reject those who say he'due south racist?
Westward: On your question – and you had i question; we're going to do information technology to another question.
Reporter: (Laughs.) OK.
West: I answered your question. I don't reply questions in simple soundbites. You are tasting a fine wine. It has multiple notes to it. (Laughter.) Yous amend play 4D chess with me like it's "Minority Report." Because information technology ain't that uncomplicated. It's complex.
On improving offense in Chicago
Reporter: When would y'all like – I'thou from the Chicago Sunday Times, sir. I would like to know what you would like to enquire President Trump to do for Chicago. You're here to talk about crime in Chicago.
West:The thing that the head of the police and Mike Sacks met with me terminal night at the Soho House most was nosotros feel that "stop and frisk" does not help the relationships in the metropolis. And anybody that knew I was coming here said, "Ask most stop and frisk." That'south the number-one matter that we're having this conversation about.
Another thing is opening up industries. And nosotros've got to go some taxation breaks too. Because we're making – we got a Speedfactory in Atlanta, but the shoes are costing u.s.a. $300, so information technology'south costing united states of america likewise much to make things.
So we need some prototypes here then we can go people dorsum working, and then Mainland china can't just trounce united states and Vietnam tin't shell us. You got Levi's, the greatest jeans visitor in the earth, making their jeans in Vietnam.
So we're going to need to become a few breaks to be able to have some places in my hometown of Chicago, and 2.7 million to the 9 million surrounding suburbs where we can create some factories.
At present, I retrieve information technology would be absurd for them to be Trump factories, because he'southward a master of manufacture. He's a builder. And I recall it would be absurd to have Yeezy ideation centers, which would exist a mix of education that empowers people and gives them modern information similar – sometimes people say, "This kid has ADD. This kid has Add together." He don't take Add. Schoolhouse is boring. Information technology was deadening. It'south not as exciting as this. We accept to brand it more than heady. We have to mix curriculums.
You play basketball game while you're doing math. You lot learn most music while you meditate in the morning. We take to instate mental health and art programs back into the city. So those are –
And also, Larry Hoover is an case of a homo that was turning his life around, and as before long as he tried to plow his life around, they hit him with six life sentences. And so I believe he'south – you say don't tear down the statues? Larry Hoover is a living statue. He'south a beacon for us that needs to see his family; that needs to leave and stand for. When y'all have a cake leader on every single block, they tin own the cake as their ain. That's something I learned from Jim Brown, from "Amer-I-Can."
We need to put curriculums for people who really came from the streets, not people who were merely trying to set usa up to get into a piece of work organisation or prison organization that applies to what people are really going through, which Jim Brown has created.
On the Second Amendment
Reporter: What about gun violence? With all the debate nigh the Second Amendment going on, how do you lot prepare that?
W: The problem is illegal guns. Illegal guns is the problem, not legal guns. We have the correct to bear artillery.
Reporter: President Trump has said that he favors "cease and frisk." Are guys going to exist discussing that? Do you call back you can alter his mind?
West: Yeah. We're going to talk over that. I didn't mean to put yous on blast similar that, bro, but –
Trump: No, no. It's OK. (Laughter.)
Due west: But this is definitely a –
Trump: Hey, I'm open-minded. I'thousand hither. I am open-minded.
On West joining Trump on campaign trail
Reporter: Mr. President, would y'all similar him to speak at one of your rallies?
Trump: He tin can speak for me anytime he wants He'southward been a groovy guy. He's a smart cookie. Smart. He gets information technology. These two guys – Jim Chocolate-brown. He's been doing this for a long time.
Brown: Yep, sir.
On W running for president
Reporter: Is this a future presidential candidate?
Trump: Could very well exist.
W: Simply after him. It'll be 2024.
Trump: Could very well be. That'southward good. I'm glad to hear that.
On the future, or lack thereof
West: We have a good – and the thing is, let'south cease worrying about the future. All we really take is today. Nosotros just accept today. Over and over and again, the eternal return. The hero'southward journey. And Trump is on his hero'south journey right now. And he might not have expected to take a crazy (expletive) like Kanye Due west run up and support, but best believe we are going to brand America great.
Now, the thing is my – another affair is blackness people have an issue with the give-and-take "over again." And I believe – my feeling from that is because I'grand going to throw – I'm going to go all the mode, (inaudible), considering fourth dimension is a myth. All nosotros accept is now. All we have is today.
So the word "again" – information technology doesn't injure us because the idea of racism and slavery, dissimilar things; it hurts us considering we need to focus on who we are now, today, I believe.
On MAGA hat and Colin Kaepernick
West: So I actually brought some hats in that have a bit of a transition. I'k non trying to put you lot – (inaudible) in the spot a little flake. I made a hat that says "Make America Dandy." Just that.
Just I would love to run across, at the Super Bowl, Trump wearing the "Make America Bang-up" hat; Colin (Kaepernick) making – wearing the "Make America Great," and showing that we tin can bend a scrap on this side, we can bend a scrap on this side, and we tin learn how to be malleable in the space universe that we are and the loving beings that we are. That we don't have to stick to our ain traditions. And we aren't a side. Nosotros are one unit. We are one state. We are one moment in history and time. Nosotros might have been here before, merely right at present we're here together. And our greatest value that people have are other people. And we need to stop working on (inaudible). It'southward like gang once more.
On the Oval Function'due south energy
Trump: Let me ask yous this question. You're in the Oval Office –
West: OK. (Laughs.)
Trump: How does it feel to be in the Oval Function?
West:Oh, it is good free energy in this.
Trump: Isn't information technology good energy?
W: It'south good energy.
Trump: It's a great place. Jim, how do you feel?
Brown: I experience proficient. I truly feel good. And thank you, too.
On the importance of their meeting
Trump: Y'all are and then respected. And what Kanye is doing has been incredible. All over the earth they're talking most this. And I have to tell you lot, I had important meetings today with senators and with everything. Nobody cared. They wanted this meeting. This is the meeting. Is that right? I can say that to Jon.
Reporter: Nosotros intendance almost other stuff, too.
Trump: The others were skilful, correct? But this is what they want.
Brownish: (Inaudible) honor you lot would be here.
Trump:Well, information technology'southward my honour, Jim. I want to tell you. I've been a fan of yours for a long time.
Chocolate-brown: Well, thank you very much.
Trump: Long fourth dimension. Nobody like you. Nobody similar y'all. No athlete like you.
Brown: Well, you know why I'm here? I'm here to serve.
Trump:Yeah. That's actually nice, Jim.
Brown: I'm not here to inquire of anything. (Inaudible.)
Trump:And you know, that's always been the manner Jim has been – for a long time. And he just wanted to help. And information technology'due south something special.
Jennifer, did you have a question?
On stop and frisk
Reporter: I approximate – only y'all – what do you feel about cease and frisk? Are you lot going to, y'all know –
Trump: Well, we're going to look at it.
Reporter: – back-track on your comment (inaudible)?
Trump: I'm open to everything. Hey, look, I think it'due south a shame what'south happening in Chicago.
On crime in Chicago
Reporter: And what else tin can be done in Chicago?
Trump:I'm in Chicago a lot, too. I take squeamish things in Chicago. Yous know that, right? And I hate to see what's happening. They're having numbers – the numbers of people being shot and killed and it's – it's not for this country. Then they have to practise something. And I am totally open up. If we tin practise it a unlike manner, Kanye, I'yard totally open. I hateful, nosotros all concord they have to exercise something, that's for certain.
Reporter: Mr. President, is it a law enforcement event? A legislation – a legislative issue?
Trump:Well, possibly information technology's a combination of both. Yeah, I gauge information technology is. But I think it'southward probably a combination of both. And it's also a respect issue. They respect this guy. They respect this guy. That's a big affair. Right now, they're non respecting, permit's say, your mayor, or let'south say your leadership in Chicago. Just certainly information technology shouldn't be happening. What'due south going on at that place should not be happening.
Steve? Become alee.
On prison reform
Reporter: Sir, what do you desire this meeting to lead to in terms of prison reform?
Trump: Honestly, from our standpoint, this was merely ready to be a lunch of two people that I like. And I guess they like me. And nosotros're going to have lunch. We're going to talk.
The hug
W: You said – you said, I guess, you know I dear you.
Trump: I know.
West: Did I –
Trump: Just I don't want to take – I don't want to put you lot in that spot, just –
West:No, I'm continuing in that spot. I love this guy right here. Let me give this guy a hug correct here. (Laughter.) I love this guy right hither.
Trump: That's really nice. Come here. That'south actually nice. And that's from the middle. I didn't want to put you in that position. (Laughter.) Only that'southward from the centre. Special guy.
These two are special people. Whether yous like it, whether you lot don't similar it, they're special people. And I appreciate it. Jim, Kanye, I appreciate it. So let'south go accept some dejeuner.
Thank you all very much.
Contributing: Jayme Deerwester, John Fritze and Maeve McDermott
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